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buttheads
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Beitrag von buttheads » 09.02.2005, 20:20

Hallo zusammen,

ich wollte Euch mal teilhaben lassen an einer email-Conversation, die ich derzeit mit help@google.com habe zum Thema URL-Hijacking. Wenn es nicht so traurig wäre ...

Ich wollte meine Domain noch herauslöschen um nicht den Eindruck zu erwecken, ich wollte hier zuspammen, aber dann machen die emails wenig Sinn ...

Die "attacking domain" hat glücklicherweise meine Domain bei sich inzwischen Gelösscht, so das ich auf die Rückkehr meiner Domain hoffen kann ...

Aber hier die emails:

> >
> > Dear Sirs,
> >
> > I would apreciate your attention to following search-enige result from
> > google:
> > https://www.google.de/search?hl=de&c2co ... t.de&meta=
> >
> > My Domain www. kreuz-fahrt .de is not shown in your results but the domain
> > of
> > a hijacker. I do not know the owner of the attacking domain.
> >
> > Maybe you can help me?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Markus
--------------------------------------

----- Original Message -----
> From: <help@google.com>

> Subject: Re: [#20818373] Domain Hijacking
>
>
> > Hi Markus,
> >
> > Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We understand your concern
> > about the inclusion and ranking of your site. Please note that there is
> > almost nothing a competitor can do to harm your ranking or have your
> site
> > removed from our index. If you are concerned about another site linking
> to
> > your site, we suggest contacting the webmaster for the site in question.
> > Google aggregates and organizes information published on the web; we
> don't
> > control the content of these pages.
> >
> > As you may know, our search results change regularly as we update our
> > index. Normal changes you observe may include, but are not limited to,
> > addition of new sites, changes in the ranking of existing sites, sites
> > falling out of the index or getting dropped for particular keywords, and
> > fluctuation between old and new webpage content.
> >
> > While we cannot guarantee that any page will consistently appear in our
> > index or appear with a particular rank, we do offer guidelines for
> > maintaining a 'crawler-friendly' site. You can find these guidelines at
> > https://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html. Following these
> > recommendations may increase the likelihood that your site will show up
> > consistently in the Google search results.
> >
> > Regards,
> > The Google Team

---------------------------------


> Subject: Re: [#20818373] Domain Hijacking
> Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:07:43 +0100
>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> Please have a look at
> https://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=ww ... t.de&meta= again. As you
> can see, When I search for my domain www. kreuz-fahrt .de it is NOT SHOWN in
> the result but another domain is shown.
>
> You might understand, that I do not understand "Please note that there is
> > almost nothing a competitor can do to harm your ranking or have your
> site
> > removed from our index." ... this guy did something to force google to
> take my place in the google search results.
>
> I contacted the other page but didn't get any answer yet.
>
> Please, my domain is not that bad, that someone should get the right to
> hijack me.
>
> My regards
>
> Markus

---------------------------------------


From: <help@google.com>

Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [#20818373] Domain Hijacking


> Hi Markus,
>
> Thank you for your reply. When we clicked on the link you provided, we saw
> your domain, www. kreuz-fahrt .de. Please try it for yourself. Please keep
> in mind that our search results change regularly.
>
> Regards,
> The Google Team

-------------------------------


Dear Sirs,

if I search for my domain and get as result another domain that shows, then my domain is harmed by the actions of this other domain ... or google
search-results are bad. My domain and all its sites have disapeared from
search-results of google, since I got this. I do not get a single visitor
from google since weeks to any of my pages of www. kreuz-fahrt .de while
before there where 300 visitors a day. My domain is shown only with URL
without any description or sinpets, when I look for the
site:www.kreuz-fahrt.de search. So this action of auri DOES harm my domain.

So if auri.de is able to harm my domain by such an attack in this way, there
is a problem at the search-algo of google. Or does google want this domain
to wipe out mine? I do not believe that... According to the guidelines of
google, this "link" has no content, is not seen by the visitors and just a
wrong form of redirection for the searchengines.

I know, that there is no "right" to be listed in search-results of google. I
was - before there was this attack - listed very good and I didn't do
anything.

Dear Sirs, I apreciate your search engine very much, but this result and the
consequences against my domain is something you should not tolerate, if you
want to have your search results "relevant".

my regards
Markus

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Beitrag von Airport1 » 09.02.2005, 20:27

Wahrscheinlich muss man die Mail ganz anders aufsetzen, damit sie verstehen dass das nicht ein Einzelfall ist, sondern derzeit ein Massen-Problem. Dann muss man den Text so sachlich formulieren (evtl. an Beispielen festmachen) wie es ein MItarbeiter des Unternehmens tun wuerde, nicht aus der Sicht des Betroffenen. Sonst wissen sie nicht auf was Du eigentlich hinaus willst. Klar aus Deiner Sicht ist das klar, aber denen anscheinend (noch) nicht.
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Beitrag von buttheads » 09.02.2005, 20:31

die haben jetzt aufgegeben, sich damit auseinanderzusetzen:

----- Original Message -----
From: <help@google.com>

Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [#20818373] Domain Hijacking


> Hi Markus,
>
> Thank you for your reply. The Google index contains two types of pages:
> fully indexed and partially indexed pages. Your page is currently
> partially indexed. Because our robots were unable to completely review its
> content during our last crawl, your site appears without a cached copy or
> detailed title. Instead, it's listed by its URL.
>
> We understand the frustration this situation may cause you. We're always
> working to increase the number of fully indexed pages in our index. You
> may be able to improve this page's visibility in our search results by
> ensuring that a number of high-quality sites link to it. While we can't
> guarantee that pages in our search results will always be fully indexed,
> 'crawler-friendly' pages have a greater chance of being fully indexed.
> Guidelines for creating a 'crawler-friendly' site are available at
> https://www.google.com/webmasters/guidelines.html
>
> Regards,
> The Google Team